Sept. 3, 2009: A woman in a wheelchair is heckled at a New Jersey town hall meeting on health care, while she expresses her concerns over health costs. MSNBC’s Monica Novotny reports.
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#1 by GodlessGuy on September 7, 2009 - 9:21 pm
Alrighty then. I guess that, given the succession to the presidency (commander in chief), a non-veteran would not only be prohibited from running for president, they cant run for vice president, serve as Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, Sec. of State, Sec. of the Treasury you can look up the rest. No less, a non-veteran cannot even serve in the congress because it is incumbent upon congress to declare war in the first place. Sorry, but its not that simple lefty.
#2 by GodlessGuy on September 7, 2009 - 9:22 pm
Now REFUSING to serve is a different matter all together. Id agree that a draft dodger such as Bill Clinton was an illegitimate commander in chief and should have been disqualified from the office. Bush who cowered in the guard to avoid Vietnam and certainly Dead-eye Dick Cheney werent worthy. But how about FDR? Should we have prohibited him from running for president? You said If you didn’t serve. Perhaps you meant something more reasonable.
#3 by GodlessGuy on September 7, 2009 - 9:35 pm
Id have to disagree with you again KB. Depending on which bill you are talking about, some of the proposals are socialist. One bill provides for a single payer system and yet another includes a public option both are arguably socialist concepts. The bill that is likely to come out of the Senate may not be socialism but when you have the healthcare industry writing the legislation what can one expect? For the record, I consider myself, and proudly identify as an American Socialist.
#4 by lb0wr on September 7, 2009 - 9:42 pm
Oh dear God – O’Bama’s IRISH?!?! It’s worse than I thought – everyone hide your potatoes, socialized potatocare death panels are buried in that bill somewhere too.
#5 by Garret00074 on September 8, 2009 - 8:22 pm
Do you just dream this stuff up? Make it up? Pull it out of your unholy asshole?
Do you even realize what a complete liar you are?
I mean, you’re not within a miles radius of saying anything remotely close to being true or varifiable.
You’re just pretty much a walking talking posting propaganda machine….there is no there there, you wouldn’t know the truth if it sat on your head…You’re all hat, pal, there is nothing I’ve ever seen you post that has the slightest thing to do with reality.
#6 by Garret00074 on September 8, 2009 - 8:25 pm
I don’t know that is true, Kenn…We have had many presidents who didn’t serve and sent other’s off to die.
And yes, Rush is a hypocrite, and he is a teach to these people on how if you lie and lie and the lie some more, maybe you can bend reality to your unholy will.
These people raille against subjective reality, yet they cynically feed it and feed off of it…there is no truth except what they proclaim, and if today red is red then tomorrow, if it suits them, it will be blue…and to hell
#7 by Garret00074 on September 8, 2009 - 8:31 pm
MRStand for america you are the prototypical fascist, a McCarthite who calls everyone who disagree’s with you a communist. You’ve never really been right about anything in your whole life, the only emotion you have is your hatred for the very communal nature of society, you’re not intelligent enough to read Ayn Rand but you can take the regurgiated Limbaughian logic that twist Rand’s anti collectivist hatred with Limbaughs pathological christianity.
In short, you’re not only ignorant but evil.
#8 by Garret00074 on September 8, 2009 - 8:41 pm
THere are aspects of it that would be socialistic, lets be honest. But so what?
Public Schools are socialistic, the government building the hiway grid and the communication grid was socialistic…any program undertaken by the government for the good of the people is socialistic…
And what’s wrong with that? Every society has to have socialistic principles in order to serve it’s people.
That’s where the right has completely lost its mind-its so hung up on the word socialism that it can’t
#9 by 555bulls on September 9, 2009 - 3:34 pm
have the people here actually read the bill?
#10 by 555bulls on September 9, 2009 - 3:53 pm
for those of you who didnt you are embarasing yourselves by believing all the myths being said really would it kill you to go on a official website and find out. But I would have to say the biggest embarassment were the people who were screaming like imature idiots I guess it true what they say some people never grow up, seriously even the people on your side were shocked and embarassed. As for the people that were payed to protest you are this countries biggest shame and should get the hell out
#11 by TheBluesky911 on September 9, 2009 - 7:45 pm
This is America today! Those are payed insurence lobby in the back groung heckling. America falls for it everyday
#12 by jeffreydsmith on September 9, 2009 - 7:57 pm
New Jersey is a generally depraved place. Or this meeting just had a lot of hired Democratic/union thugs.
#13 by LittleDikkins on September 9, 2009 - 10:35 pm
Sorry Jeff, that was a bunch of tea baggers — I’ve seen video of them shouting down other people who expressed opinions/views that they didn’t like.
#14 by jasbigj on September 9, 2009 - 11:11 pm
Bunch of redneck douchbags.
#15 by Garret00074 on September 9, 2009 - 11:49 pm
THere is NO bill yet….There is discussion about what the bill will be…
#16 by Garret00074 on September 9, 2009 - 11:51 pm
Well, Jeff is still trying to seperate the Communist/fascist thing out, and he loves the corporation and hates American workers, even though he is an American worker…
Hard to figure, right. The prototype of the people who killed Christ…Christ came to save them, so they killed him for it.
That’s sort of your typical republican union hating american hating conservative philosophy.
They’re so hungry for the crumbs off the table that they don’t even want to be invited for the meal.
#17 by Ghaztoir on September 10, 2009 - 2:54 am
Couldn’t agree more, burch. If they want war so much, they better gear their own asses up and fly themselves on their own dollar.
#18 by Garret00074 on September 10, 2009 - 10:41 pm
you know, they’re always so patriotic when some republican sends our boys off to war, and you know those boys are from our poorest families, many of which are uninsured. So, they demand we fight their wars from them and yet won’t even allow a discussion about covering every American because it might cost a couple of dollars our of their pocket, dollars which they had no trouble committing to their dirty little lie in the mideast, which no congressman every called them out for. Horrible American
#19 by Ghaztoir on September 10, 2009 - 11:18 pm
republican/democrat, there’s no difference between them anymore. Instead, there is an agenda to destroy this country that they are perpetuating.
#20 by Garret00074 on September 10, 2009 - 11:24 pm
You know, I basically agree. But when you really look at it, say compare Reagan/Bush I&II/Nixon to Carter/Clinton/Obama…I prefer to take my chances with the Dems..>They do a LOT less damage to the country than the dam republican’s do.
The republicans are selling us out faster than the titanic. They wanted to let the auto companies go.
Now, if the Democrats would act like democrats and stop trying to be like Republicans, this country would have a chance….
#21 by Ghaztoir on September 11, 2009 - 2:02 am
Mhm. If wishes were fishes, the ocean would be overflowing by now, lol. The corruption is just way too deep and not working for the best interest to the average american citizen however. I’d like to “hope” the dems are truely working to restore our prestige, but so far, events have proven otherwise. And I will remain pessimistic and highly critical of future government actions until proven otherwise.
#22 by fred5399 on September 12, 2009 - 5:05 pm
FDR’s sons served in WW2 He said “if Yours have to go so do mine”. . Hell, I think the draft should be brought back. every American male from the the ghetto thug to the kansas farm boy should serve. I think America should about “how can I serve rather than what can I get”
#23 by fred5399 on September 12, 2009 - 5:08 pm
Dode Vicodin is some good shit don’t knock it.
#24 by GodlessGuy on September 12, 2009 - 10:42 pm
Sorry, it isnt that simple. Not every “American male” is suited for military service and I suspect you’d have issues such as an increase in suicides related to forced military service. What’s your position on gays in the military? And why should not every “American female” serve as well? And further, if you deny someone the opportunity to serve because of say – a physical impairment, isn’t that person due some compensation for being denied the same opportunities as others?
#25 by mrktwn on September 15, 2009 - 7:19 pm
…A lot of “Conservatives” are unable(or unwilling) to walk a mile in somebody elses shoes. In my opinion, it is a pre-requisite for American conservative idealogy.